Truffa degli hard disk Seagate usati venduti come nuovi: c'entra la criptovaluta Chia?
La "truffa dei dischi Seagate", che riguarda la vendita di hard disk usati come se fossero nuovi, sembra assumere connotati globali. C'è anche una teoria: i dischi sarebbero scarti di server farm in Cina collegate al farming della criptovaluta Chia.
di Manolo De Agostini pubblicata il 08 Febbraio 2025, alle 14:01 nel canale StorageSeagate
La scorsa settimana vi abbiamo informato della "truffa dei dischi Seagate", ovvero la vendita di hard disk usati spacciati per nuovi. Sulla vicenda non c'è ancora un quadro preciso, ma ci sono alcuni sviluppi degni di nota.
Per prima cosa, il sito tedesco Heise ha ricevuto altre segnalazioni di acquirenti truffati, per un totale che ha superato quota 200. Le segnalazioni non provengono solo dalla Germania, ma anche da Austria, Gran Bretagna, Repubblica Ceca, Svizzera e persino dagli Stati Uniti e dal Giappone. Si sospetta, quindi, una truffa su scala globale.
Nel suo articolo, Heise sottolinea che la frode potrebbe avere origine in Cina. L'ipotesi è che gli hard disk usati provengano da ex server farm impiegate per il "farming" della criptovaluta Chia (ne scrivemmo nel 2021). In pratica, si tratterebbe di unità utilizzate quando l'attività era redditizia, ma che ora, dopo la chiusura delle farm legata ai costi energetici superiori ai profitti previsti, giacciono ferme in qualche magazzino.
In un altro approfondimento, Heise ha raccolto le dichiarazioni di rivenditori online tedeschi e una nuova presa di posizione di Seagate. Alternate assicura che né il negozio né i suoi fornitori tedeschi erano a conoscenza del fatto che la merce non fosse nuova. In caso di problemi, i clienti possono contattare seagate@alternate.de via e-mail.
Galaxus ha pubblicato una pagina di supporto sull'argomento e invita i clienti a rivolgersi al proprio servizio assistenza. Proshop permette ai clienti di inviare gratuitamente i propri HDD per la sostituzione. Altri rivenditori ricordano che in questi casi si applica direttamente la garanzia legale, mentre Wortmann vuole analizzare l'HDD prima di procedere con eventuali rimborsi.
Seagate ha rilasciato un'ulteriore dichiarazione rispetto a quella iniziale, in cui afferma di aver preso la questione "molto seriamente" e di aver avviato "un'indagine approfondita". L'azienda ribadisce di non essere coinvolta nella vicenda e di fornire sempre prodotti nuovi ai rivenditori.
"Non possiamo fornire dettagli sull'indagine in corso, ma sospettiamo che queste unità siano state vendute nuove da Seagate ai clienti e successivamente rivendute da questi ultimi sul mercato dell'usato. In questo caso, riteniamo che gli hard disk siano stati ricommercializzati in qualche punto della catena di fornitura e rivenduti come nuovi". Seagate ha messo a disposizione l'indirizzo fraud@seagate.com per segnalare truffe di questo tipo.
Normalmente, le ore di funzionamento di un disco rigido o di un SSD sono memorizzate nei parametri SMART e possono essere lette con strumenti come CrystalDiskInfo o Hard Disk Sentinel.
Tuttavia, in questi casi, i valori SMART risultano azzerati, come accade nei modelli ricertificati da Seagate. Solo interrogando i valori FARM (Field Accessible Reliability Metrics) è possibile scoprire le reali ore di funzionamento.
Il modo più semplice per ottenere i valori FARM è utilizzare smartmontools per Windows e Linux (download). Assicuratevi di avere la versione 7.4, in quanto supporta la query (smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]) per vedere i parametri FARM e cercate il parametro alla voce "Power on Hours". I valori possono essere letti anche con Seatools, una suite di strumenti ufficiali di Seagate.
AGGIORNAMENTO 25-02-2025
Secondo un ulteriore articolo di Heise, sarebbero coinvolti nella truffa anche i modelli IronWolf e IronWolf Pro di Seagate, destinati principalmente ai NAS.
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[CODE]C:\Windows\System32>smartctl -l farm d:
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w11-b26100] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 4.5
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ZJV4NB06
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500b5c9d0fc
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 23437770752
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 268435456
Number of Heads: 16
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: G005
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01629
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x0168cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
[COLOR="Red"]Power on Hours: 24740[/COLOR]
Spindle Power on Hours: 278645310645
Head Flight Hours: 278645310645
Head Load Events: 335
Power Cycle Count: 352
Hardware Reset Count: 494
Spin-up Time: 10 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 0 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number:
Drive Recording Type: UNKNOWN
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 0
Assembly Date (YYWW):
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 2505325234
Total Number of Write Commands: 2225667124
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 867273910
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 1919239348
Total Number Of Other Commands: 8180908
Logical Sectors Written: 1673646593560
Logical Sectors Read: 1929325105052
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 0
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 0
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 0
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 21
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 425
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 0
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 40
Highest Temperature: 54
Lowest Temperature: 23
Average Short Term Temperature: 39
Average Long Term Temperature: 39
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 47
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 38
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 45
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 39
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 80
Current Motor Power: 0
Current 12 volts: 0.000
Minimum 12 volts: 0.000
Maximum 12 volts: 0.000
Current 5 volts: 0.000
Minimum 5 volts: 0.000
Maximum 5 volts: 0.000
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.000
12V Power Maximum: 0.000
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.000
5V Power Maximum: 0.000
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x000000000dcb2e88
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 84
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 64
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x0000000000e2a169
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 72
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 64
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 0: 1772631693924
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 1966696049972
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 1792598613056
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 2017118711673
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 1671370849272
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 1724340498503
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 1912511960254
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 1718617629260
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 8: 1688408524338
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 1964502754703
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 10: 1912972627569
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 11: 1944704023376
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 12: 1869528640471
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 13: 1851875027689
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 14: 1762689160995
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 15: 1658551239534
MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 0: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 1: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 8: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 9: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 12: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 13: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 14: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 6
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 15: 0[/CODE]
Che poi scusa eh: ma se sapevi che era ricondizionato (e quindi usato), perché ti stupisci di vedere quel dato? Mah...
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Si, ma viene riportato che non basta lo SMART e servirebbe controllare il resto: " Solo interrogando i valori FARM (Field Accessible Reliability Metrics) è possibile scoprire le reali ore di funzionamento."
In effetti mi devo ancora mettere a controllare i miei HD 'nuovi' di WD con smartctl per controllare se hanno qualche problema di... età
Ho installato la versione grafica v2.0.1 di https://github.com/ashaduri/gsmartc...ases/tag/v2.0.1
citato nelle News di SmartMonTools:
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ma non appare niente del genere sul mio WD Purple. E nulla che si riferisca ad un Farm log.
Usando l'exeguibile smartmontools-7.4-1.win32-setup.exe per Windows il risultato su un HDD WD è:
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Quindi non si può andare oltre lo SMART con gli HDD di Western Digital?
Io ho smesso da molto più di un anno e non solo per elettronica e informatica, ma anche per tutto il resto (e dico tutto). Solo gli alimenti non posso farne a meno, ma anche lì ho dato una sforbiciata per quel che potevo.
Solo che non cambia nulla. Date una mano anche voi...
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