System of a Down [OFFICIAL]

[nongio]

Originariamente inviato da AtuttaBIRRA!
nongio mi stai simpatico....ti faccio un regalo

http://www.srcswccbi36.com/

io non ti ho detto niente

grazie del regalo ma lo avevo già


al massimo posso riciclarlo


SOAD rulez

[nongio]

Domani vado a pijà i biglietti

nn vedo l'ora, ieri sono andato a quello dei green day ed è stato bellissimo mi immagino i SOAD

SOAD SOAD SOAD SOAD SOAD

[Northern Antarctica]

Originariamente inviato da Everland
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Ever4ever

forse e' meglio fermarsi alla musica. guarda che ha scritto Serj Tankian 20 minuti (si, 20 minuti) dopo la tragedia dell'11 settembre 2001:

Serj Tankian's Thoughts on the Tragedy
Understanding Oil
By Serj Tankian

"The brutal attacks/bombings this week in New York, and Washington D.C., along with threats of attacks there and elsewhere in the country have changed our times forever. While the mass media concentrates on the details of the destruction, and the blanketed words of politicians, I will attempt to understand and explain the events from the fence. BOMBING AND BEING BOMBED ARE THE SAME THINGS ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE FENCE.

Terror is not a spontaneous human action without credence. People just don't hijack planes and commit harikari (suicide) without any weight of thought to THIS HORRIFIC ACT OF VIOLENCE AND DESTRUCTION? To be able to understand the answer to this, we must first look at our U.S. Mideast Policy. During most of the 20th century, U.S. businesses have worked on attaining oil rights and concessions from countries in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. After WWI, secret back door deals by our State Dept. yielded oil rights from then defeated Turkey to fields in what is now Iraq and Saudi Arabia, in return for looking the other way at a crime against humanity, The Genocide of the Armenians by the Turks. Oil profits have been the Motivating factors behind many attempts at counterinsurgency of democratic regimes by the CIA and the U.S in the Middle East (such as Iran in the 1950s, where the Shah replaced the Prime Minister who refused to give up oil rights to the U.S., and since the people couldn't deal with the Shah, an extremist government headed by the Ayatollah Khomeini ultimately prevailed). During the Iran-Iraq war, America supplied both sides with weapons and advice. These are not the actions of a rich superpower wanting peace. Let's not forget that Saddam Hussein, before being America's vision of the Anti-Christ, was a close ally of the U.S., and the CIA. So what was the firm belief system of consecutive American administrations that caused all this to occur ? PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL LEAD TO HIGHER OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES. Let's not also forget the power of the Arms industry, disguised as defense, that still sells billions of dollars of weapons to the area. Therefore it has not been in the short-term economic interest of the U.S. to foster Peace in the Middle East. Using the above reasoning, the U.S. has encouraged extremist governments, toppled democracies, as in the case of Iran to replace it with a monarchy, rigged elections, and many more unspeakable political crimes for U.S. businesses abroad. Let's not also forget the Red Scare. During the war between the then Soviet Union and Afghanistan, the U.S. armed and supported the Taliban, a fundamentalist Muslim organization, and allowed them to export opium and heroin out of their country to pay for those weapons. Therefore the Taliban rose to power and control with the help of the U.S.A. Today, the bombing of Iraq still continues, no longer covered by the media, the economic embargo still remains, killing millions of children, and recently, while the world and the U.N. General Assembly have cried out to bring in peacekeeping forces into Israel and Palestine, to end the escalated war and recent assassinations, the U.S. has vetoed the rest of the Security Council and has halted the possibility of peace, there, in the most volatile place in the world. People in Serbia, Lebanon, Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan to name a few have seen bombs fall, not always at military targets and kill innocent civilians, as the scene in New York city yesterday. The wars waged by our government in our names has landed smack in the middle of our living room. The half hour of destruction closed down all world financial markets, struck the central headquarters of our military, and had our leaders running into bunkers, and our citizens into fear and frenzy. What scares me more than what has occurred is what our reactions to the occurrences may cause. President Bush belongs to a lon generation of Republican Presidents who love war economies. The media has only concentrated on the bombings, if you will, and what type of retaliations are looming for the perpetrators. What everyone fails to realize is that the bombings are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, generally unseen to most Americans. To react to a reaction would be to further sponsor the reaction. In other words, my belief is that the terror will multiply if concrete steps are not taken to sponsor peace in the middle east, NOW. This does not mean that we should not find the guilty party(s), Bin Laden, or whoever they may be, and not them. Put simply, as long as a major injustice remains, violence precipitates to the surface of life. native American folklore, the Bible, Nostradamus, and many other major religious beliefs point to this era with the visuals of yesterday's disasters, and conditions of ecological disasters we experience daily in our today. War, rumors of war, famine, long burning fires, etc., are at our doorstep. We can prevail over this possible vision with the power of the human spirit, understanding, compassion, and peace. IT'S TIME TO PUT OUR NEEDS FOR SECURITY AND SURVIVAL, ACHIEVED ONLY THROUGH PEACE, ABOVE AND BEYOND PROFITS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES. SOLUTION:
The U.S. should stop sidestepping the U.N. Security Council, and allow U.N. Peacekeeping troops and missions to the Middle East. Stop the violence first. Stop the bombing and patrol of Iraq.
With today's gains in the use of alternative fuels, develop them to full usage with autos and other utilities, to make the country less dependant on an already depleting natural reserve, oil.
By initiating peace, we would have already shaken the foundations of Support for Bin Laden, and/or all those that sponsor activities like those we saw yesterday, and break the stronghold of extremists on the world of Islam. On the other hand, if we carry out bombings on Afghanistan or elsewhere to appease public demand, and very likely kill innocent civilians along the way we'd be creating many more martyrs going to their deaths in retaliation against the ( missing word) . As shown from yesterday's events, you cannot stop a person who's ready to die."

In sostanza, una critica feroce agli Stati Uniti, la nazione che ha ospitato la sua famiglia e nella quale ha scelto di vivere. Si puo' essere d'accordo sul messaggio. Ma non si può fare un post del genere solo VENTI MINUTI dopo la tragedia: è evidente che si trattava di qualcosa di già preparato. Inoltre, non c'è il minimo riferimento alle vittime dell'attacco né alla sofferenza di queste ultime e a quella delle loro famiglie, nè una sola parola di condoglianze. Se avesse fatto questo post ad esempio un paio di giorni prima della tragedia, o un paio di mesi dopo, sarebbe stata un'altra cosa.

Difatti, dopo aver ricevuto minacce di morte, ha ritrattato tutto con quest'altro post:


Serj Comments More On Tragedy

Serj Tankian's remarks are in reference to the death threats the band has recieved over his previous remarks (which can be viewed below).

"Our whole world has been sickened by the terrible events in New York and D.C. I've been calling out to friends all week to make sure they're ok. My heart goes out to all the families suffering because of this madness. As American citizens, we are in the privileged position to be able to speak our hearts, even if other people disagree. I highly value the fact that I can make a statement with my intention being to sponsor peace and understanding of the tragic events that have been unfolding. I ask only that, for the long-term survival of our planet, we all concentrate on positive energies in our lives while pursuing justice. I would not be alive if not for the American orphanages that raised my grandfather after the Armenian Genocide of 1915, so I have a lot of love and respect for the good things that America has and can continue to achieve."

Serj Tankian
System of a Down

[AtuttaBIRRA!]

Originariamente inviato da Northern Antarctica
forse e' meglio fermarsi alla musica. guarda che ha scritto Serj Tankian 20 minuti (si, 20 minuti) dopo la tragedia dell'11 settembre 2001:

Serj Tankian's Thoughts on the Tragedy
Understanding Oil
By Serj Tankian

"The brutal attacks/bombings this week in New York, and Washington D.C., along with threats of attacks there and elsewhere in the country have changed our times forever. While the mass media concentrates on the details of the destruction, and the blanketed words of politicians, I will attempt to understand and explain the events from the fence. BOMBING AND BEING BOMBED ARE THE SAME THINGS ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE FENCE.

Terror is not a spontaneous human action without credence. People just don't hijack planes and commit harikari (suicide) without any weight of thought to THIS HORRIFIC ACT OF VIOLENCE AND DESTRUCTION? To be able to understand the answer to this, we must first look at our U.S. Mideast Policy. During most of the 20th century, U.S. businesses have worked on attaining oil rights and concessions from countries in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. After WWI, secret back door deals by our State Dept. yielded oil rights from then defeated Turkey to fields in what is now Iraq and Saudi Arabia, in return for looking the other way at a crime against humanity, The Genocide of the Armenians by the Turks. Oil profits have been the Motivating factors behind many attempts at counterinsurgency of democratic regimes by the CIA and the U.S in the Middle East (such as Iran in the 1950s, where the Shah replaced the Prime Minister who refused to give up oil rights to the U.S., and since the people couldn't deal with the Shah, an extremist government headed by the Ayatollah Khomeini ultimately prevailed). During the Iran-Iraq war, America supplied both sides with weapons and advice. These are not the actions of a rich superpower wanting peace. Let's not forget that Saddam Hussein, before being America's vision of the Anti-Christ, was a close ally of the U.S., and the CIA. So what was the firm belief system of consecutive American administrations that caused all this to occur ? PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL LEAD TO HIGHER OIL AND GASOLINE PRICES. Let's not also forget the power of the Arms industry, disguised as defense, that still sells billions of dollars of weapons to the area. Therefore it has not been in the short-term economic interest of the U.S. to foster Peace in the Middle East. Using the above reasoning, the U.S. has encouraged extremist governments, toppled democracies, as in the case of Iran to replace it with a monarchy, rigged elections, and many more unspeakable political crimes for U.S. businesses abroad. Let's not also forget the Red Scare. During the war between the then Soviet Union and Afghanistan, the U.S. armed and supported the Taliban, a fundamentalist Muslim organization, and allowed them to export opium and heroin out of their country to pay for those weapons. Therefore the Taliban rose to power and control with the help of the U.S.A. Today, the bombing of Iraq still continues, no longer covered by the media, the economic embargo still remains, killing millions of children, and recently, while the world and the U.N. General Assembly have cried out to bring in peacekeeping forces into Israel and Palestine, to end the escalated war and recent assassinations, the U.S. has vetoed the rest of the Security Council and has halted the possibility of peace, there, in the most volatile place in the world. People in Serbia, Lebanon, Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan to name a few have seen bombs fall, not always at military targets and kill innocent civilians, as the scene in New York city yesterday. The wars waged by our government in our names has landed smack in the middle of our living room. The half hour of destruction closed down all world financial markets, struck the central headquarters of our military, and had our leaders running into bunkers, and our citizens into fear and frenzy. What scares me more than what has occurred is what our reactions to the occurrences may cause. President Bush belongs to a lon generation of Republican Presidents who love war economies. The media has only concentrated on the bombings, if you will, and what type of retaliations are looming for the perpetrators. What everyone fails to realize is that the bombings are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, generally unseen to most Americans. To react to a reaction would be to further sponsor the reaction. In other words, my belief is that the terror will multiply if concrete steps are not taken to sponsor peace in the middle east, NOW. This does not mean that we should not find the guilty party(s), Bin Laden, or whoever they may be, and not them. Put simply, as long as a major injustice remains, violence precipitates to the surface of life. native American folklore, the Bible, Nostradamus, and many other major religious beliefs point to this era with the visuals of yesterday's disasters, and conditions of ecological disasters we experience daily in our today. War, rumors of war, famine, long burning fires, etc., are at our doorstep. We can prevail over this possible vision with the power of the human spirit, understanding, compassion, and peace. IT'S TIME TO PUT OUR NEEDS FOR SECURITY AND SURVIVAL, ACHIEVED ONLY THROUGH PEACE, ABOVE AND BEYOND PROFITS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES. SOLUTION:
The U.S. should stop sidestepping the U.N. Security Council, and allow U.N. Peacekeeping troops and missions to the Middle East. Stop the violence first. Stop the bombing and patrol of Iraq.
With today's gains in the use of alternative fuels, develop them to full usage with autos and other utilities, to make the country less dependant on an already depleting natural reserve, oil.
By initiating peace, we would have already shaken the foundations of Support for Bin Laden, and/or all those that sponsor activities like those we saw yesterday, and break the stronghold of extremists on the world of Islam. On the other hand, if we carry out bombings on Afghanistan or elsewhere to appease public demand, and very likely kill innocent civilians along the way we'd be creating many more martyrs going to their deaths in retaliation against the ( missing word) . As shown from yesterday's events, you cannot stop a person who's ready to die."

In sostanza, una critica feroce agli Stati Uniti, la nazione che ha ospitato la sua famiglia e nella quale ha scelto di vivere. Si puo' essere d'accordo sul messaggio. Ma non si può fare un post del genere solo VENTI MINUTI dopo la tragedia: è evidente che si trattava di qualcosa di già preparato. Inoltre, non c'è il minimo riferimento alle vittime dell'attacco né alla sofferenza di queste ultime e a quella delle loro famiglie, nè una sola parola di condoglianze. Se avesse fatto questo post ad esempio un paio di giorni prima della tragedia, o un paio di mesi dopo, sarebbe stata un'altra cosa.

Difatti, dopo aver ricevuto minacce di morte, ha ritrattato tutto con quest'altro post:


Serj Comments More On Tragedy

Serj Tankian's remarks are in reference to the death threats the band has recieved over his previous remarks (which can be viewed below).

"Our whole world has been sickened by the terrible events in New York and D.C. I've been calling out to friends all week to make sure they're ok. My heart goes out to all the families suffering because of this madness. As American citizens, we are in the privileged position to be able to speak our hearts, even if other people disagree. I highly value the fact that I can make a statement with my intention being to sponsor peace and understanding of the tragic events that have been unfolding. I ask only that, for the long-term survival of our planet, we all concentrate on positive energies in our lives while pursuing justice. I would not be alive if not for the American orphanages that raised my grandfather after the Armenian Genocide of 1915, so I have a lot of love and respect for the good things that America has and can continue to achieve."

Serj Tankian
System of a Down

Everland si riferiva ai testi delle canzoni non di certo al contenuto di queste "lettere"...perchè di canzoni si parlava, o sbaglio?

[lucas86mj23]

azz ... al concerto del 30 maggio nn mankerò!!!
ma sapete quanto costa? grazie!

[AtuttaBIRRA!]

Originariamente inviato da lucas86mj23
azz ... al concerto del 30 maggio nn mankerò!!!
ma sapete quanto costa? grazie!

25 + 3eur di prevendita

[lucas86mj23]

uaz!
hmm.. ma si dai!
farò 1 sforzo x sti 28€ !!

[project00]

Originariamente inviato da nongio
Domani vado a pijà i biglietti

nn vedo l'ora, ieri sono andato a quello dei green day ed è stato bellissimo mi immagino i SOAD

SOAD SOAD SOAD SOAD SOAD

OT: anch io c ero ai Greenday. Bello ma forse troppo corto... In autogrill ho trovato il tipo a cui Billy ha regalato la chitarra.. CHE INVIDIA!!!
Fine OT

Al concerto dei SOAD ci saro sicuramente.

Ciao

[nongio]

Originariamente inviato da project00
OT: anch io c ero ai Greenday. Bello ma forse troppo corto... In autogrill ho trovato il tipo a cui Billy ha regalato la chitarra.. CHE INVIDIA!!!
Fine OT

Al concerto dei SOAD ci saro sicuramente.

Ciao

noooo lo hai beccato in autogrill?

ammazza che C*lo ha avuto !! mi rode tantissimo.

cmq il concerto è stato bellissimo

non vedo l'ora di andare a vedere i SOAD i biglietti mi arrivano la sett prox

[nongio]

Un up al 3d dei SOAD che saranno in concerto il 30Maggio 2005 Al Filaforum

non può finire in quarta pagina

cmq io sono ancora in attesa dei biglietti, hanno detto che arriveranno la sett prox, è già passata una settimana dall'ordine

non vedo l'ora di andare a quel concerto

[lucas86mj23]

catso nn devo mancare !!
pogo paura ? ARRRIIIIIIIIVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!

[nongio]

I biglietti li ho presi!!!!

nn vedo l'ora

[lucas86mj23]

Originariamente inviato da lucas86mj23
catso nn devo mancare !!
pogo paura ? ARRRIIIIIIIIVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!

HO PRESO I BIGLIETTI !! evvaaaaaaaai !!!!

[nongio]

vabbhè per la seconda volta ritiro su sto 3d che stavolta è finito nell'oblio di questa sezione

Allora parliamo dei SOAD, che dall'ultimo messaggio scritto ne hanno fatta di roba.

Su internet e nei loro concerti già si sentono Cigaro, B.Y.O.B.

Proprio al riguardo di BYOB i SOAD stanno girtando il video a Los Angeles e in settimana dovrebbe uscire il singolo. ( sarebbe uscito il 30-03 ma bho hanno rinviato prob)

Per quanto riguarda mezmerise la tracklist è la seguente:

01 Soldier Side (Intro)
02 Bring Your Own Bombs
03 Revenga
04 Cigaro
05 Radio/Video
06 This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song
07 Violent Pornography
08 Question!
09 Sad Statue
10 Old School Hollywood
11 Lost In Hollywood
11 Lonely Day (Traccia Nascosta)

L'uscita è prevista per il 17maggio.

Il concerto ad Assago del 30maggio è sold out da quasi un mese e non vedo l'ora di essere lì immezzo a pogare.

Per quanto riguarda il look di Daron e Serj preferisco sorvolare

BYOB è pesantissima e fantastica se tutto l'album è così sarà fantastico.
Tralaltro BYOB è stata usata nella pubblicità della MotoGP (ma vabbhè chissene )

DAI DI S.O.A.D. RAGAZZUOLI!!

PS: maggio sarà un mese fantastico, sono rpeviste le uscite dei cd di SOAD, Limp Bizkit, Audioslave, Foo Fighter azz....

CIAOOOO

[AtuttaBIRRA!]

B.Y.O.B è veramente intrigante...se l'album è su questi livelli sono contento

[nongio]

Originariamente inviato da AtuttaBIRRA!

B.Y.O.B è veramente intrigante...se l'album è su questi livelli sono contento

si anche io molto!! non vedo l'ora che venga il 30 maggio

[damascato]

Io i biglietti li ho da 1 mese...!

Unico problema: io dal vivo li ho già visti e mi hanno deluso MOLTISSIMO!

[nongio]

Anche io i biglietti li ho avuti appena erano disponibili.ù

Ho scaricato il live di quest'anno al BDO e li devo dire cher hanno suonato benissimo e anche serj ha cantato benissimo.

nn vedo l'ora

[LightIntoDarkness]

Originariamente inviato da nongio

Ho scaricato il live di quest'anno al BDO e li devo dire cher hanno suonato benissimo e anche serj ha cantato benissimo.

Confermo la bontà del live di serj dal vivo, da quanto vedo nei filmati live che ho.
Batterista veramente stupefacente mentre le seconde voci lasciano un po' a desiderare.

[nongio]

si è vero Daron come seconda voce secondo me non è il massimo, poi per di più lui fa il pirla e allora...