[HUAG]Italia-JSF F-35 Thread Ufficiale

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Originariamente inviato da Quincy_it

Complimenti!

Grassie

Originariamente inviato da Quincy_it
Se posso chiederlo, di cosa ti occupi esattamente?

Del processo di verifica (check out) dei sistemi dell'aeroplano.

E di sopravvivere al caldo. Stamattina, arrivando qui alle 6.30 c'erano gia' 25 gradi.

Qualche giorno fa stavo lavorando in casa la mattina presto e alle 6.00 si e' attaccato il condizionatore. Lo tengo regolato a 29-30 gradi.

Praticamente gia' la mattina arrivo qui con la macchina topless.

Ciao.

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Vediamo una breve panoramica dell'equivalente del JSF in Russia:l'LFI/LFS

A differenza della controparte americana(aereo d'attacco con capacità di intercettazione come LFS)l'LFI è concepito come un'aereo da caccia con capacità secondarie di interdizione.L'intenzione è di sostituire i MiG-29 di vecchia generazione con un mezzo più capace nell'attacco al suolo e,soprattutto,meno costoso,in modo da integrarlo con i nuovi MiG-29SMT.

Le specifiche sono state formulate dal RuAF's 30th Scientific Research Institute nel 1998.

In futuro l'aviazione russa sarà così composta:intercettori a lungo raggio(Su-35 e MiG-31M e in futuro sustituiti da S.37 o MiG 1.42 o nuovi progetti);aerei da attacco a medio raggio(Su-27IBs a sostituzione dei Su-24s)aerei d'attacco tattici (MiG-29SMT e LFI,mentre l'LFS sostituirà il Su-25).

I costruttori in gara sono: Mikoyan, Sukhoi,Yakovlev.
Tutti hanno potenziali vantaggi:Mikoyan ha compiuto progressi con l'MFI e pensano di avere in tasca alcune nuove tecnologie vincenti,la Sukhoi ha dalla sua maggiori fondi finanziari,la Yakovlev ha già esperienza con gli STOVL.

Per evitare di danneggiare eccessivamente gli sconfitti,il governo russo ha deciso di far partecipere anche loro al progetto finale,costruendo alcune parti secondarie.

I requisiti principali sono:cociera supersonica,VSTOL,stiva interna per le armi.Il motore dovrà essere 2 Lyulka-Saturn AL-41F per l'LFS,1 per l'LFI.

Il progetto LFS/LFI Sukhoi sarà praticamente la versione monomotore più piccola del Su-35 con ugello a spinta vettoriale.



Questo è l'addestratore derivato



Questo è il concept della Mikoyan



Nell'aprile 2002 viene scelta la Sukhoi come principale sviluppatore.

Il prototipo dovrebbe volare nel 2006 e nel 2010 dovrebbe essere pronto per la produzione in serie,mentre per le esportazioni si dovrà aspettere il 2012.Ma come per tutti i programmi russi c'è la Spada di Damocle dei finanziamenti.
Una soluzione sembra arrivare dall'accordo con l'India,anch'essa interessata al programma.

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BAE Signs International Agreements for F-35 Joint Strike Fighter




(Source: BAE Systems; issued July 19, 2004)




BAE Systems North America recently signed Memorandums of Agreement (MOA) for work-share partnerships with Norway, The Netherlands, Italy, and Australia for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program.

The agreements, which were signed in June, represent the first teaming agreements with international suppliers to support BAE Systems during the System Development and Design (SDD) and Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) phases of the JSF Electronic Warfare (EW) program. The MOA establishes a work-share partnership with one supplier for each country.

BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems, headquartered in Nashua, New Hampshire, has overall responsibility for the JSF Electronic Warfare system integration.

'International partners are instrumental in achieving the program goals to develop a premier fighter aircraft,' said Deborah Lenz, BAE Systems JSF EW International program manager.

'It is the combination of unique and complimentary capabilities that we believe offers the allied warfighter the best combination of performance, price, and delivery of the product. In addition, the MOAs not only demonstrate BAE Systems willingness and commitment to use the best capabilities and services available today, but are also a major step in developing long-term relationships with our foreign suppliers,' Lenz said.

Kitron ASA, located in Billingstad, Norway, was the first supplier to sign the EW MOA. Kitron is a developer and manufacturer of electronics for the medical, defense, and data/telecommunications and process industries and has been engaged in a number of programs delivering electronic components as well as complete electronic systems for use in advanced military equipment. The MOA includes the assembly of electronic test equipment for the JSF EW program.

Thales Nederland B.V, located in Hengelo, is BAE Systems JSF EW work-share partner in The Netherlands. Thales is a European high-technology group with expertise in electronics-based defense systems and services. Thales will provide machining and casting of sub-modules and components, and the assembly of electronic components.

BAE Systems is an international company engaged in the development, delivery, and support of advanced defense and aerospace systems in the air, on land, at sea, and in space. The company designs, manufactures, and supports military aircraft, surface ships, submarines, radar, avionics, communications, electronics, and guided weapon systems.

BAE Systems has major operations across five continents and customers in some 130 countries. The company employs more than 90,000 people and generates annual sales of more than $20 billion through its wholly owned and joint-venture operations.

BAE Systems North America is a high-technology U.S. company employing more than 25,000 people who live and work in some 30 states, the District of Columbia, and the United Kingdom. The company is dedicated to solving its customers' needs with highly innovative and leading edge solutions across the defense electronics, systems, information technology, and services arenas.

BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems employs 6,900 people at 13 major facilities in eight states. The business unit is a major producer of aircraft self-protection systems and tactical surveillance and intelligence systems for all branches of the armed forces. IEWS provides products and services in four major lines of business: Electronic Warfare/Electronic Protection, Electronic Warfare/Information Warfare, Integrated Defense Solutions, and Mission Electronics.

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Presto risolti i problemi di peso secondo la Lockheed

(fonte Financial Times)


Lockheed Martin and its partners on Monday sought to dispel concerns that the jump jet version of its F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) was in trouble because the aircraft was overweight.

The short take-off and vertical landing variant (STOVL) of the aircraft is crucial to the UK military, which is planning to buy up to 150 aircraft to replace its ageing Harrier jump jets, early next decade.

The $200bn JSF programme is expected to be the largest combat aircraft project in history. The UK and seven other countries - including Italy and Australia - are helping to fund the development with the US.

The US Marine Corp plans to buy several hundred of the STOVL aircraft to replace its own Harriers.

Lockheed, which is heading an industry team that includes Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems and engine maker Pratt & Whitney, has orders for just over 2,500 aircraft. Most are conventional versions destined for the US air force and navy.

The weight problem with the aircraft has held up a decision by the UK's Royal Navy on ordering two new aircraft carriers, which are being designed around the JSF. The two ships would have to be substantially modified if the STOVL version of JSF failed to materialise.

But on Monday the company insisted the jump jet version was back on track after slowing development work down across the entire JSF programme.

"We are back into detailed design with confidence we have a configuration that will meet STOVL performance requirements, leading to first flight in 2007," said Dain Hancock, president of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics.

Earlier this year it was revealed that design projections had determined that the jump jet version of the aircraft was between 2,500lb and 2,800lb too heavy.

Michael Cosentino, international programmes director for the F-35, said a team of 500 engineers tasked with cutting the weight had already identified 1,600lb of savings. "We have great confidence that the STOVL version will be a success," he said, predicting the weight gap would be closed completely.

Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies, is also investigating the possibility of the increasing the power output of the engine that will power the first JSFs.



Louis Chenervet, president of P&W, said: "There is no doubt in my mind" that the STOVL version will fly,"

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Alenia gestirà in Europa logistica caccia Jsf continentali

ROMA, 29 luglio (Reuters) - Alenia Aeronautica, società del gruppo Finmeccanica (Milano: SIFI.MI - notizie - bacheca) , avrà la responsabilità in Europa di gestire la catena logistica dei componenti per la produzione e la manutenzione dei velivoli da difesa F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) destinati alle Forze Armate europee.

Lo si legge in un comunicato di Alenia nel quale si precisa che la gestione è prevista da un accordo di collaborazione con Honeywell e Caterpillar Logistics Services, le due aziende statunitensi scelte da Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT - notizie) (la società scelta per coordinare il programma del nuovo caccia di terza generazione) per l'organizzazione della logistica del programma a livello mondiale.

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[Duncan]

bell'affare per l'alenia

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Goodyear per lo sviluppo dei pneumatici del JSF

AKRON, Ohio --- The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company will receive $2.25 million under the defense appropriations bill, passed last week by the U.S. Congress. The grant will fund research and development on the next generation of aircraft tires to be used on the nation?s new Navy and Air Force joint strike fighter jets.

The R&D efforts will be directed by Goodyear?s Akron Technical Center.

Goodyear is the world?s largest supplier of tires for commercial, military and general aviation aircraft. The company?s aircraft tires are manufactured in Danville, Va.; Bangkok, Thailand, and Sao Paulo, Brazil.

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Chiedo che questo thread venga spostato in Scienza e Tecnica.Grazie

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Mi è capitato di giocare a un simulatore JSF della Novalogic, carino.

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La Pratt & Whitney modifica il motore per problemi di erosione anomala

Pratt & Whitney is modifying the lead engine for the U.S. Defense Department's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to address an erosion problem that surfaced in the propulsion system almost two months ago.

The company is increasing the size of the "restrictor plate" that regulates the flow of cooling air in part of the F135 engine, Pratt & Whitney spokesman David Morgillo told The DAILY Aug. 4. Engineers determined that the plate's old "undersized" design was not allowing enough cool air to reach the second-stage vanes of the turbine section, causing erosion to develop in the FX641, one of four F135s the company has delivered to the JSF program.

All existing and future F135s will be outfitted with the newly designed restrictor plate.

"This change represents a minor tweak to the plan and will have no impact on overall performance of the F135," Morgillo said, adding that the engine's cost and overall schedule also will not be affected.

Some of the existing F135s already have received the revised restrictor plate, and "test results to date indicate the modification has been effective," Morgillo said.

Testing of the FX641 was stopped June 7 when the erosion was discovered (DAILY, June 29). Pratt & Whitney expects to return that engine to the test stand in early August.

Although the FX641 is the only delivered F135 that is designed for the short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) variant of JSF, Pratt & Whitney does not believe the erosion problem had anything to do with the STOVL engine's unique features, which include a lift fan and a swiveling nozzle, Morgillo said. The other three delivered engines - the FX631, FX632 and FX633 - are intended for both the conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) version and the carrier variant (CV).

Pratt & Whitney is building a total of seven F135s for JSF's ground-test program, including the four delivered so far. Three more, all designed for the STOVL variant, are slated for delivery by year's end.

The F135 is one of two engines being developed for JSF. The F136, which General Electric Aircraft Engines and Rolls-Royce are devising as the alternate engine, ran for the first time July 22 (DAILY, July 27). JSF initially will fly with the F135, but the F136 eventually will become a competitor.

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Iniziato l'assemblaggio delle ali

F-35 Wing Assembly Begins at Lockheed Martin


(Source: Lockheed Martin)


FORT WORTH, Texas --- Assembly of the wing for the first F-35 Joint Strike Fighter started today at Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth, less than two months after the plant initiated the aircraft?s forward-fuselage assembly.

?With wing assembly under way, and with aft-fuselage assembly expected to begin this week, all of the F-35's four major subassemblies will be in production,' said Bob Elrod, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and F-35 JSF program general manager. 'The F-35's advanced, modular assembly process is designed to increase production speed dramatically while improving quality and reducing costs.'

BAE Systems will begin production of the aircraft's aft-fuselage in Samlesbury, England, this week. Northrop Grumman's Palmdale, Calif., facility started center-fuselage assembly in May. The first F-35, a conventional- takeoff-and-landing model, is scheduled to be completed in 2005, with first flight scheduled for 2006.

The first phase of wing assembly started Monday when workers loaded an aluminum bulkhead and a front spar onto an assembly fixture. Nine more spars will be added to complete the wing skeleton. Once the skeleton is complete, the upper and lower carbon-fiber composite skins will be attached. It will then be mated to the other F-35 subassemblies beginning in the spring of 2005. Progressive, Inc., of Arlington, Texas, produced the wing bulkheads. The front spar was made by Thayer of St. Louis.

When the 35-foot wing's structural assembly is complete, technicians will add internal systems such as pumps, sensors and electrical components.

The F-35 is a next-generation, supersonic, multi-role stealth aircraft designed to replace the AV-8B Harrier, A-10, F-16, F/A-18 Hornet and the United Kingdom's Harrier GR.7 and Sea Harrier.

Lockheed Martin and its principal industrial partners Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems are employing an array of advanced and highly accurate manufacturing machines to help the F-35 achieve its goals of affordability, quality and assembly speed.

Three F-35 variants -- a conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL), a short- takeoff/vertical-landing (STOVL) and a carrier variant (CV) -- each derived from a common design will ensure that the F-35 meets the performance needs of the U.S. Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, the U.K. Royal Air Force and Royal Navy, and allied defense forces worldwide, while staying within strict affordability targets.

Lockheed Martin is developing the F-35 in conjunction with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems. Companies worldwide are participating in the F-35's development. Two propulsion teams, led by Pratt & Whitney and General Electric, are developing separate interchangeable engines for the F-35.

[Duncan]

Quando sarà pronto per il volo?

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Originariamente inviato da Duncan
Quando sarà pronto per il volo?

E' previsto per il 2006

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BAe inizia l'assemblaggio della fusoliera

BAE Systems Starts F-35 JSF Assembly


(Source: BAE Systems; issued Aug. 25, 2004)


Employees at BAE Systems Samlesbury, UK, have started assembling the aft fuselage of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), the next generation, supersonic, multi-role stealth aircraft.

Assembly started with the loading of a fuel-wall and the mid-keel (forward) into an assembly jig in the state-of-the-art JSF facility, which was opened at Samlesbury in September last year. Both components are located in the port boom assembly within the aft fuselage.

Michael Christie, Programme Director at BAE Systems said: 'This milestone marks the start of an assembly process which, during the summer of 2005, will see the BAE SYSTEMS JSF team delivering not only the aft fuselage but also the horizontal and vertical tails of the first aircraft.'

'One of the skills that BAE Systems has brought to the JSF programme is advanced assembly techniques and processes, many of which have been developed at Samlesbury; on JSF we are now taking those to another level.'

Tom Fillingham, Vice President and Deputy Programme Manager, added; 'Today marks a major step forward for BAE Systems, Samlesbury and the whole of the UK aerospace industry. When you consider that the current requirement for JSF is in excess of 2,500 aircraft, it emphasises the importance of this day for all involved. BAE Systems involvement on the JSF programme will help maintain vital design, engineering and manufacturing skills, not only within BAE Systems but across the UK as a whole.'

Frank Hayden, Site Director at Samlesbury said: 'Samlesbury has a distinguished history in the production of world class aircraft and we are delighted to add JSF to that prestigious list. Achieving today's milestone is great news for the Samlesbury team and all our suppliers.'

The F-35 JSF will set new standards for assembly precision and pace. New milling machines are accurate to within 50 microns - about one-third the width of a human hair - to ensure that the JSF's outer shape is exact and meets its low observability (stealth) requirements. During full-rate production, assembly time for an F-35 is expected to be less than half that of current-generation fighters.

BAE Systems is responsible for the design, manufacture and assembly of the aft fuselage and horizontal and vertical tails.

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is being developed for the US Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps, as well as the UK's Royal Air Force and Royal Navy, to replace the A-10, the Harrier, F-16 and the F/A-18 in current service with the two nations.

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Pratt & Whitney Resumes F135 STOVL Propulsion System Testing for F-35 Joint Strike Fighter


(Source: Pratt & Whitney; issued Aug. 26, 2004)


EAST HARTFORD, Conn. --- The Pratt & Whitney (P&W) led F135 Propulsion System Team has delivered and begun testing on its second F135 Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) Propulsion System, engine number FX643. Later this month P&W also anticipates the resumption of testing on FX641, the 1st STOVL configured F135 Propulsion System.

The F135 Team, since October of 2003, has delivered a total of three Conventional Take-Off and Landing (CTOL) / Carrier Variant (CV) configured engines to test (FX631, FX632 and FX633) as well as the two previously mentioned STOVL propulsion systems. All the engines have been delivered under the F135 Team's System Design and Development (SDD) contract to provide the power for the Joint Strike Fighter and all five have been delivered on or ahead of schedule.

These five SDD F135 engine systems have already accumulated over 700 hours of test run time and both the CTOL/CV and STOVL configured systems have completed some very important testing milestones. Examples of these milestones include FX631, the first CTOL/CV configured engine to test, completed several test runs to full afterburner power demonstrating over 39,000 pounds of thrust and FX641 has performed sustained runs to 'hover thrust' demonstrating over 39,000 pounds of thrust in the vertical take off mode.

FX641 testing will be focused on the areas of STOVL Sea Level Performance, STOVL Sea Level Operability, STOVL Systems Development and STOVL Augmentor Performance, while FX643 is focused on endurance testing. The F135 program expects to deliver two more STOVL systems early this fall and is on track to reach its target of 2,000 combined (CTOL/CV-STOVL) test hours before the end of 2004.

The F135 Propulsion System Team consists of P&W, the prime contractor with responsibility for the propulsion system and system integration for all variants; Hamilton Sundstrand provider of the F135's control system, external accessories and gearbox; and Rolls-Royce, providing the Rolls-Royce LiftFan(TM), 3 Bearing Swivel Module and Roll Posts to the STOVL (Short Take- Off/Vertical Landing) F-35B. The technologically advanced F135 has evolved from the highly acclaimed F119 engine powering the F/A-22 Raptor.

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RISOLTI I PROBLEMI DI PESO

With Weight Issues Resolved, F-35 Focus Turns to Production


(Source: Lockheed Martin; issued Sept. 14, 2004)


FORT WORTH, Texas --- Engineers have removed more than 2,700 pounds (1,225 kilograms) of unwanted estimated weight from the short-takeoff/vertical-landing (STOVL) version of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, while increasing propulsion efficiency and reducing drag. The result is an F-35 JSF design recommendation that is expected to meet or exceed all of its performance requirements.

"The F-35 is now tracking ahead of its Key Performance Parameters, and past concerns about the aircraft's aerodynamic performance have diminished," said Tom Burbage, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and general manager of F-35 JSF program integration. "Because of the design similarities among the three F-35 variants, many of the STOVL-version refinements will translate to the conventional and carrier versions, which already met their performance requirements even before the STOVL improvements were instituted."

The F-35 team anticipates final approval of the STOVL revisions when the U.S. Defense Acquisition Board meets on Oct. 14.

"We have addressed every known aspect affecting STOVL aerodynamic performance and shipboard compatibility," said Rear Adm. Steven Enewold, F-35 JSF program executive director. "We feel our proposed configuration is operationally viable. The next step is to get the trade-study results implemented into the detailed STOVL design package."

With first flight expected in August 2006, production becomes the program's central focus. All four of the first test aircraft's major subassemblies are now in work. Last month BAE Systems began assembling the aft fuselage and tails in Samlesbury, England, and Lockheed Martin started wing assembly at the company's Fort Worth plant. In May, Northrop Grumman kicked off F-35 assembly when it began making the center fuselage in Palmdale, Calif. Forward-fuselage assembly started the following month in Fort Worth. Production of control surfaces and edges will soon be under way at Lockheed Martin's Palmdale site.

Final assembly of the F-35 is planned to start next spring in Fort Worth, with completion of the first aircraft anticipated in late 2005.

The program already is preparing for the challenge of operating, supporting and sustaining thousands of F-35s worldwide. Nine countries currently are engaged in the aircraft's development and are expected to begin adding F-35s to their fleets early in the next decade. Many other nations have expressed interest in the aircraft, and the roster of international F-35 customers is likely to grow. The task of sustaining such a large number of aircraft over a geographically dispersed area for more than 40 years will be made possible by the F-35's exceptional reliability, its next-generation onboard diagnostics, its standardized and simplified maintenance processes, streamlined supply-chain management and many other advances over current fighters.

The F-35 is a next-generation, supersonic, multi-role stealth aircraft designed to replace the AV-8B Harrier, A-10, F-16, F/A-18 Hornet and the United Kingdom's Harrier GR.7 and Sea Harrier.

Lockheed Martin and its principal industrial partners Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems are employing an array of advanced and highly accurate manufacturing machines to help the F-35 achieve its goals of affordability, quality and assembly speed.

Three F-35 variants -- a conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL), a short- takeoff/vertical-landing (STOVL) and a carrier variant (CV) -- each derived from a common design will ensure that the F-35 meets the performance needs of the U.S. Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, the U.K. Royal Air Force and Royal Navy, and allied defense forces worldwide, while staying within strict affordability targets.

Lockheed Martin is developing the F-35 in conjunction with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems. Companies worldwide are participating in the F-35's development. Two propulsion teams, led by Pratt & Whitney and General Electric, are developing separate interchangeable engines for the F-35.

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., a business area of Lockheed Martin, is a leader in the design, research and development, systems integration, production and support of advanced military aircraft and related technologies. Its customers include the military services of the United States and allied countries throughout the world.

Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin employs about 130,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture and integration of advanced technology systems, products and services. The corporation reported 2003 sales of $31.8 billion.

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Consegnato il primo radar per l'F-35

BALTIMORE --- Northrop Grumman Corporation has delivered the first fire-control radar for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to prime contractor Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company.

The AN/APG-81 radar, which incorporates an active electronically scanned array, will be used to conduct radome integration testing at Lockheed Martin's Palmdale, Calif., facility. The unmatched multi-mode capability of the radar will support air-to-air, air-to-surface and electronic warfare missions. It will provide the pilot with precision all-weather targeting and advanced air-to-ground automatic target cueing.

“This first hardware delivery marks a substantial milestone in the process of integrating the radar into the F-35 avionics,” said John C. Johnson, vice president of Combat Avionics Systems at Northrop Grumman. “We'll start flight-testing the radar later this year in Baltimore on our testbed aircraft, which will further boost the momentum of this nationwide integration effort.”

Johnson added that software development for the radar continues on schedule, with nearly a year of integration work completed. Engineers will test the software modes during the upcoming flight-test program.

In joint efforts with Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control, Orlando, Fla., Northrop Grumman's Electronic Systems sector is also developing the F-35's electro-optical Distributed Aperture System (DAS) and Electro-optical Targeting System (EOTS). The DAS surrounds the aircraft with a protective sphere of situational awareness, warning the pilot of incoming aircraft and missile threats as well as providing day/night vision and additional fire-control capability. The internally mounted EOTS provides longer-range detection and precision targeting of ground and airborne threats.

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is a supersonic, multi-role stealth fighter designed to replace a wide range of aging fighter and strike aircraft, including the AV-8B Harrier, A-10, F-16, F/A-18, and the United Kingdom's Harrier GR.7 and Sea Harrier. Three variants derived from a common design will ensure the F-35 meets the performance needs of the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy, and U.S. Marine Corps as well as allied defense forces worldwide, while also meeting strict affordability requirements.

Northrop Grumman's Baltimore-based Electronic Systems sector is a world leader in the design, development and manufacture of defense and commercial electronic systems and sensors, including airborne radar, navigation systems, electronic countermeasures, precision weapons, airspace management systems, communications systems, space sensors, marine and naval systems, government systems and logistics services.

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...Bellissimo topic...complimenti a tutti...Teox 82...bravissimo...TXFW..tienici informati su quello che ci puoi far sapere.....ciao....(ho notato che sulla coda dell' X-35 ci sono anche io )......

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complimenti

[senzasoldi]

Ho letto che dovrebbe sostutuire anche lo A-10.
Ma la protezione dell'A-10 è veramente tosta!. A suo tempo avevo letto che poteva resistere a proiettili da 20 mm !
Questa com'è?