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Anche tu eviti di rispondere, rispodi al mio post sull'OMS. Quote:
Brrrrr che paura. |
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12-11-2009, 11:48 | #1083 |
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12-11-2009, 11:51 | #1085 |
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Sempre parlando del programma di ieri sera, avete visto il servizio sul sito dell'OMS, dunque han salvato la pagina dove viera spiegato quando un epidemia si trasforama in pandemia, ebbene in primavera dice: una pandemia è da considerarsi tale quando il tasso di mortalità è elevato! Dalla stessa pagina attualmente è stato stralciato tutto quello scritto sul tasso di mortalità. Coda di paglia al cubo! |
12-11-2009, 11:53 | #1086 |
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Verso le loro aziende, volto a impedire che stati americani scelgano i tipi di vaccini prodotti da aziende non americane.
E' una questione economica. Aggiungo che in Francia dove si usa lo stesso vaccino che in Italia non c'è tutto sto tormentone sullo squalene. Ultima modifica di Sheera : 12-11-2009 alle 11:55. |
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12-11-2009, 12:03 | #1088 |
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P.S. E' chiaro che è verso i pazienti, in quanto dagli studi effettuati lo squalene risulta dannoso!!! Ultima modifica di superkoala : 12-11-2009 alle 12:06. |
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12-11-2009, 12:13 | #1090 | |
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http://www.theflucase.com N.B. Tutte le notizie riportate sono ben documentate ed è sempre citata la fonte!!! |
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Io insisto su questo argomento (che nessuno leggerà):
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...7/8560781.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses. And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria. “At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark. “But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.” The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event. On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email. The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic. People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences. While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created. There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however. “We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti. “And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.” Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.” He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process. Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden. “We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said. “And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. ... This is very important.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Questa poi è bella: He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process. Il virus potrebbe essere stato, per errori tecnici, creato in laboratorio ma la Baxter non fornisce ulteriori dettagli per difendere il proprio segreto professionale ... bah, io li prenderei a frustate finchè non "cantano".
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12-11-2009, 12:24 | #1092 | |
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Conflicts of interest? Dr. Mehmet Oz owns 150,000 option shares in vaccine technology company ... il conflitto di interessi non è solo quello di Berlusconi ?
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12-11-2009, 12:25 | #1093 | |
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Esempio: http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?...mid=64&lang=en Half of school children sick from "swine flu" shot In a school in Sweden where the students was mass vaccinated with the poisonous Pandemrix "swine flu", half of them called in sick the day after the vaccination. Out of 233 students, 130 reported sick the day after the shot and did not show up for school. The doctor administering the shot, Richard Eitrem, was shocked and called the headmaster of the school to find out what the status was of his patients. Many of the students went back to school the second day and this "calmed him down". The seasonal flu is also making several students ill and according to Aftonbladet, that contributed to the high number of students calling in sick. The article then states that only 20% to 30 % of the parents in several areas surrounding the capital Stockholm agreed to have their children vaccinated with the poisonous Pandemrix vaccine. According to a school nurse, Ingrid Scotte, that is due to hesitations towards the vaccine based on "irrelevant" information concerning side effects. Johan Niklasson |
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12-11-2009, 12:28 | #1094 |
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Beh aspè, anche mia figlia si è appena vaccinata (meningite se non sbaglio) ed ha avuto la febbre per un giorno. È normalissimo perchè il corpo reagisce.
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http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?...mid=81&lang=en
Guarda, arrivare a dubitare o anche credere al fatto che la Baxter possa aver "per sbaglio" michiato i virus per poi approfittarne, ci sto. Ma questo è troppo per me : Also, I suggest that there are reasonable grounds for believing that Baxter is part of a secret bioweapons programme and that there are plans to release weaponised bird flu on the world’s population soon.
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Ciao ragazzi,
ho due figli uno il primo 7 anni si è ammalato (non so se è suina) domenica febbre 38,5 lunedì passata martedì un po' di tosse e raffreddore ora sta bene. La seconda 5 anni si è ammalata ieri stanotte 39,5 di febbre tachipirina stamattina 37,5 poi salita a 38,5 alle 11,30 nuova tachipirina ora ha 38 è scesa poco e oltretutto tossisce molto ma il respiro sembra normale. Ha fatto la bronchiolite a 40 giorni di vita e per i primi due/tre anni ogni volta che si ammalava 3/4 volte anno eravamo costretti a darle qualche pastiglia di cortisone, negli ultimi 2 anni però è stata bene e non ha più avuto nessun problema. Che dite devo preoccuparmi?? Vorrei aspettare ancora fino a domani per vedere l'evolversi della situazione prima di chiamare il pediatra voi che dite potrebbe essere tardi?? Grazie |
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Io lo avrei chiamato questa mattina e gli avrei spiegato la situazione,poi e' lui a consigliarti cosa e' meglio. Poi,insieme a lui,attendete l'evolversi della situazione ma io personalmente l'avrei gia' chiamato in mattinata
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